Bill Clinton was once asked how one might determine if he is a Democrat or a Republican. Admitting it was merely a thumbnail test, he famously responded that, “Well, if you think the 60s were mostly good, you’re probably a Democrat; if you think they were mostly bad, probably a Republican.”
The same might be done when trying to determine if one be a confessionalist or an Evangelical. Clinton used a rather popular ease way to sort out political affiliation. Likewise, for this taxonomy it may be said that, “If one thinks Billy Graham is mostly beneficial, he’s probably an Evangelical; if he thinks Graham is mostly disadvantageous, probably a confessionalist.”
If that seems too harsh, consider what Graham thinks he owes revivalist Charles Finney, whose picture adorns the archways in the halls of Graham’s main offices and who Graham considers “the greatest evangelist since the Apostle Paul.” Why is that a problem? Saith Finney:
“If he had obeyed the Law as our substitute [that is Adam] then why should our own return to personal obedience be insisted upon as a sine qua non of our salvation? The atonement is simply an incentive to virtue.”
Against the view that “the atonement is a literal payment of a debt” Finney taught that “the atonement of itself does not secure the salvation of anyone.” Justification by the imputation of Christ’s righteousness Finney says, “…is not only absurd, but undermines all motivation for personal holiness. The new birth is not a divine gift, but the result of a rational choice to turn from sin to obedience.” In fact, his most famous sermon was “Sinners Bound to Change Their Own Hearts.” Christians can perfectly obey God in this life if they choose and only in this way are they justified. In fact, he adds, “Full present obedience is a condition of justification. No one can be justified while sin, any degree of sin, remains in him.”
Finney declared concerning the Reformation formula “simultaneously justified and sinful,”
“…this error has slain more souls I fear than all the Universalism that ever cursed the world. For whenever a Christian sins he comes under condemnation and must repent and do his first works or be lost. As I have already said, there can be no justification in a legal or forensic sense but upon the ground of universal, perfect, and uninterrupted obedience to Law. The doctrine of an imputed righteousness or that Christ’s obedience to the Law was credited as our obedience is founded on a most false and nonsensical assumption. For Christ’s righteousness could do more than justify himself, it could never be imputed to us. It was naturally impossible, then, for him then to obey in our behalf. Representing the atonement as the ground of the sinner’s justification has been a sad occasion of stumbling for many.”
Referring to the framers of the Westminster Confession of Faith and their view of an imputed righteousness Finney writes, “If this is not antinomianism then I don’t know what is.” Of the Confessions themselves he declared them to be “paper popes!”
With friends like that, well, said rule of thumb might be better than a finger in the eye.
And if your like, “Billy Graham who?” You’re probably a Lutheran.
By: Chris on July 15, 2008
at 9:23 am
Great post, Zrim.
By: Rick on July 15, 2008
at 9:49 am
Chris,
Or living under a rock, like my friend who had no idea who Stein or Falwell were (I’m still sort of reeling over that one). I suppose in all these instances ignorance can indeed be bliss.
Of all the names I get called for my 2K views, “Lutheran” is my favorite, a close second to “antinomian.”
By: Zrim on July 15, 2008
at 9:54 am
Zrim, your comment ^ reminded me of a conversation I had with a friend of mine who was attending a Lutheran music college. He said that he liked the people there, but he didn’t like the Lutheran’s “strange” view of the kingdom. I told him, “well, I share their view of the kingdom.” His respect for me went down a notch that day, but so be it.
By: Rick on July 15, 2008
at 11:24 am
Getting dissed like that only affirms the fact that you belong in the Outhouse, Rick. Welcome, again.
By: Zrim on July 15, 2008
at 12:56 pm
Zrim,
off topic here but what does one do when the denomination one attends espouses paedo-communion and then changes their mind to not allow for paedo-communion? this is a church that had weekly communion as well so the table was part of the service.
my friends from the former (now folded) homestead church is in this situation and now needs to find a church that will allow her kids communion.
thanks.
By: Rana on July 15, 2008
at 3:08 pm
R’na,
Sounds like there may be a few gaps here.
First, I don’t know if it is what you intend to convey, but I’m not one much for making one thing like this determine church membership. Our former Council president was female. They bought a place up in TC (our hometown) and asked for a recommendation. Redeemer PCA was my immediate answer. They liked it so much they were willing to forego the local CRC up there (which is a total disaster). She, I think, displayed the right posture when it came to the fact that RPCA does not ordain women: “As strongly as I feel about female ordination, I wouldn’t let that keep me from Redeemer.” In other words, we all have something we must sacrifice. I’d've been willing to endure Blacketer’s ordinationism, transformationalism (and some other stuff) since I think he may be one of the last confessionalists in the CRC.
Second, this isn’t simply because I’m not a paedo-communionist (or because I am a subordinationist). I should qualify that. Again, Redeemer’s pastor has the right take on this issue to my mind. Children ought not be kept from the Table simply because they are children. After all, it’s their sort of faith we are supposed to have, etc. But the mad dash to the Table that paedo-communionists make is not the way to do it. Instead of restoring our children to the Table we should be restoring them to instruction in hopes to join us at the Table. And a simple confession will suffice upon a proper examination by the elders. My experience in our denom is that, in the absence of instruction, what rushes in to fill the void is a reckless and dangerous invite to the Table.
I have no idea if that helps answer the question…
By: Zrim on July 15, 2008
at 4:13 pm
I understand your points, but for them it is very important to the extent that they considered the Orthodox Church. I told them to check out a couple of Lutheran Churches in the area.
Thanks.
By: r'na on July 15, 2008
at 7:52 pm
R’na,
Or that, yes.
By: Zrim on July 16, 2008
at 8:44 am